Wednesday, June 10, 2009

Its been a month??

I really am bad at this blogging thing. hmm a month.. what have we done in a month?

Did I post that we got orders?? I cant remember when we got them but we got them. We had an extension to stay here another year so Tyler could graduate in 2010.. and we were just getting ready to put in for a 2nd extension so Tanner could graduate in 2011.. that way we wouldnt have to move either of them in their senior year.

our 1st extension was approved a long time ago. we were here until summer 2010. woohoo! so I started thinking of the places we could go this year.. and figured I would have some surgery in May of this year and get that out of the way..

yeah.

then the day before April Fools Day, I get an email from Robert. saying we have to leave. THIS SUMMER. our extension was taken away from us. they turned his job into a lower ranking slot. who says rank pays?.. ugh! so I emailed him back and told him april fools day wasnt until the next day and this wasnt funny! thankyouverymuch.

not a joke. the upside? we got to rank the order of the TWO bases they gave us to pick from.. we never get to pick where we want to go so that was a real treat. the 2? Ellsworth in South Dakota.... ummmmm no.thank.you! I lived in Northern Maine for 5 LONG years. I do not need to live in another snow up to the eyeballs, 10 months winter, frozen tundra out in the middle of nowhere place. really. i dont.

and the 2nd one? Goodfellow in Texas. ummm.. out in the middle of nowhere Texas..
which I could deal with.. wouldnt be my 1st choice, but we did New Mexico middle of nowhere and this is like 3 hours from there, so I know I can handle it. I really didnt mind NM.. though I know most people didnt like it there.

so we put TX first, SD 2nd. duh.

THAT night we had orders in the system. that never happens. not for us.

so off to TX we go. this summer. so much for my surgery (they wouldnt approve it since we wouldnt be here for 6 more months) and my travel plans just flew right out the window. :( why why why dont I learn? When you get orders overseas, TRAVEL RIGHT AWAY! I know this. I learned this last time we came here. did I do it this time? nope. grrrrrrr kicking myself. HARD.

we did go to Disney Paris.. I promised the kids 4 yrs ago that we would go there before leaving here. so we went. before Travis left. and had fun!! I dont think most people know that I LOVE Disney. I love mickey mouse. :) there. i said it. We used to have a MM bathroom. I have several MM watches. they need new batteries. but I have them.

so we did that. and you already know we went to Paris.

we havent done Austria. or Switzerland. or Italy.

I seriously want to go to do the sound of music tour. switzerland i could go ahead and skip.
we wanted to go to Dachau.. and Berlin..

I reallly want to go to italy. all over italy- pisa, rome, venice...

yeah. i had hopes right up until last week. then reality hit and i dont think we will get to see any of it. I am seriously bummed. seriously.

we ship our truck out on Tuesday! we wont have it on Monday because we are putting it into the place to get it cleaned. we will have 2 cars to get us all places, until Roberts car sells.. and then what? well we dont all go anywhere together i guess. we will have my car and we have to sell it in July. then what? i have no idea.
cant really afford to rent a van for a month. crazy prices.

ugh.

movers come on the 24th.. for at least 3 days. maybe 4. Tanners bday is the 25th so hes not happy. like its my fault?
we fly out at the beginning of August. seriously bummed.bright side? ill be here for my bday and hopefully can have lunch with friends at least.

so im sounding negative now. sorry. did i mention im bummed?

I have a friend! a good friend! I havent had her a long time and now I have to leave? whats that all about??? bleh. still trying to convince her to move to TX hahahahahah (that snow i mentioned earlier? she likes it! *gasp*) yeah, i still like her.

by the way, i never did find out what i did or said to old friend to make her 'disown' me.. she said on march 17th that she would let me know.. yep, nothing yet. no idea why i cant let it go. it eats at me just wanting to know. ok, dont be my friend but dangit. tell me why.

ok so what else.. school is out tomorrow. what am i going to do with 5 kids and nothing in the house but loaner furniture and no car to take them all somewhere for a whole month??? yikes.

new topic:

so Travis went off to basic training. yep, he really went. havent heard from him, but know hes doing ok. i have a spy there kind of LOL. so hes doing alright.. keeping a low profile thank goodness. he graduates July 17th. cant go. want to go. hate that i cant go. grumble grumble. i really hope this whole thing is a good thing for him. i think it will be.. we'll see.

good stuff? need to end on a positive note...

i got my first massage a couple weeks ago. loved it! want another one. :)

tyler went to prom and he and his date looked very nice. it was in a castle this year. way cool.

i discovered 'farm town' on facebook and im now addicted. crazy.

ive sold lots of junk in preparing for the move. yay!

pepper gets to go in the cabin of the plane with us! yes, this is good news.. we were worried about getting her back in the heat of summer.

we had family pics done before travis left and they are really nice!

stampin up's new colors and things come out on july 1st and i ordered sneak peek stuff.. it should be here soon! ive seen the colors already- sooo nice! yay!

our 20th anniversary is next week. 20 years??!! am i that old? dunno what to get the man. sigh.

ok im done for now. :) a month of stuff all in one big post. exhale.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009

scratches and castles and throw up... oh my!

So once again I havent blogged in forever.. I never could keep up with a diary when I was little and with a journal as I got into Young Womens at church and were told often to write in a journal.. yeah, I would write in it for 2 days and then be done for the year. :p
I guess even though Im online nonstop, this is no different. Im just no good at the blog thing.

anyways..

Susan has had to listen to my stories lately and she told me I should be blogging about a couple things the last couple of weeks.. so here they are.

SCRATCHES

so I get a call from the school.. Trace's 2nd grade teacher called me and so I figured he must be sick. I hate getting the sick calls from school.. I swear theyre fine when I send them to school! so anyways.. she says.. I have Trace here and we have an issue. sigh.

sooo I say ok what happened..

she goes on to say that at recess or at lunch.. i dont know.. that Trace had told a girl that he would pay her if she would scratch him.. big pause.. well, my brain immediately thinks oh my gosh.. scratch him WHERE???? ackkkk he is a boy after all... I start to panic and sweat and my heart is racing.. all in a matter of seconds before she continues her sentence..
so Trace told a girl he would pay her to scratch him on the arm.
umm ok.. so she did scratch him and another boy and when she did, 2 other boys saw her and decided to push her down and then hit on her.
hmmm

ok I can see how this is bad... poor girl got beat up for picking on my kid..

well, this is a serious issue says the teacher.. and she wants a meeting with all the parents of the kids involved the next week. ummm ok let me know when..

then she asks if I want to talk to him.. well of course I say yes because if not what kind of parent will she think I am?? but at the same time.. what the heck am I going to say to him on the phone???? he gets on the phone.. i ask him if he even has money to be making deals with?? he says yes in his wallet.. but its at home..
ok well we will disuss this when you get home.

SIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

OK so I was on base and doing errands and just as I was leaving the gate, my cell rings.. its the school.. they have Trace there- he didnt get on the bus to go home and needs to be picked up.. huh.ok. Ill make a uturn and go get him.
I get off base, do a uturn, get back on base and my phone beeps.. apparently home had called me while i was talking to the school. so i call home and am told that trace didnt get home. yes, i know.. but kid at home had also called dad. ok thanks. so i call robert and he says yeah, i was told i needed to come get him. i tell him im on my way to get him- i have it taken care of.

get to the school.. kid is not in the office like they told me he was. Im told hes in the class with the teacher.. go down the hall.. teacher is in the hall talking to other teachers.. sees me and we go into the classroom where trace is sitting at his table all alone.. looking so very sad..

we sit. teacher tells me she thinks what happened was that everyday she asks the kid a question on his way to the line to leave. well today she told him she wasnt asking him a question. so they all get in line and go out to the bus area to leave. she goes back into the building and trace is still sitting there. he misunderstood and thought since he didnt get asked a question, he couldnt line up and leave. :(

so since im there.. we have THE conference. she tells me the whole story again.. we ask him a bunch of questions.. she proceeds to tell me that she has told him that he needs to EARN the money from his parents to pay the girl because she did do her part afterall.. then i find out he promised her FOUR DOLLARS! heck kid.. what were you thinking>!?!? i was thinking maybe he promised her a quarter or something. sheesh.

ok fine. whatever. he has to bring a list to the teacher by friday of that week of ways he will earn money. then when he brings the money in to the girl, the girl will have to find a way to do something good with it for the class.. this will become a CLASS learning project.
whatever.
get home, have the boy make a list..

1. sell toys
2. play music
3. chores
4. i dont remember his other one

I ask him how he is going to play music for money? he says.. his harmonica.. ummm yeah but HOW are you going to make money?
he is going to sit outside and play his harmonica and people will put money in the pot for him.
ummm no trace.. i dont think that will work.


oh and much later when Im telling his dad about all of this.. he then informs us that he shouldnt have to pay anyways because the girl didnt do her part of the deal.. umm she scratched you both didnt she? yeah but the real deal was that if she scratched them and they said it hurt then he would pay her. they never said it hurt. ok trace but you could have said this in front of the teacher! i cant tell her this 2 days later and not have it look like im trying to come up with some lame excuse for the kid. good grief.


he takes the note in.. nothing else is said by the teacher. he hasnt EARNED the money at home and so far, its been forgotten. :p

CASTLES AND THROW UP

I suggest you dont read this part if you have a weak stomach.. though most MOMS that I know could handle it. LOL

so we found out a couple weeks ago that we have to leave THIS SUMMER instead of next year like planned. SO NOT HAPPY about this!

So because of this, we have to do and see LOTS before then. not an easy task with 8 people and a limited budget and trying to do move stuff too. but whatever.
so on Saturday we decide we have to go somewhere. anywhere.

so we drive a couple hours away to Burg Eltz. a pretty castle.. from the outside. i have no idea what the inside is like. but robert and the kids said it was nice.




we get there and of course everyone is hungry.. it was lunchtime. so i say well lets go in and do the tour and then get lunch in the little snack place.. go and buy the family ticket to do the tour. sit and wait for the english tour..20 minutes or so.. trent says he has a headache. ok once we eat, youll be ok.. says mom.
so we go into the first room.. weapons on the walls.. get the spiel about it and trent is leaning on me telling me he doesnt feel good.. ok trent just get through this tour and youll be ok..
time to move to the next room.. trent says im going to be sick.. i tell robert that trents going to be sick so i will go back out with him and he should take the rest of them through the castle. he says no we'll all leave. ummmm no i didnt pay all that money to sit outside with everyone. then we will all do the tour. sureeeee.
so everyone moves into the next room, me and trent are last.. he is going to throw up. i go to the big door and cant figure out how to open it. the tour guide comes back to close the door and i say can we get out hes going to be sick? so he uses the KEY and lets us out. where trent throws up into the trashcan right by the door.



next tour goes in while we stand there and trent is puking into the trash.

he finishes. really, it wasnt much because he didnt eat breakfast that morning. which i find out at that point in time. i figure hes carsick because of the long drive and windy roads.
so i take him back and ask how long the tour is.. 40-45 minutes. ughhh
so we go and get some water and french fries and sit to eat and wait.
he drinks the water.. eats a couple fries.. i eat some fries..
we then go check out the souveniers. i see what i want to buy before we leave.
we go back to the courtyard and sit just as they come out of the tour! yay!
so then we all go into the 2nd part of the tour- the treasure rooms. get through that and back out.
everyone is starving. we go to the food place again.
seating is like this..
outside picnic tables. all the other tables full of people.
its tyler, me, tanner, trent on one side
travis, robert, abby, trace on the other side.

abby and trace got fries and soda
tanner got currywurst, fries and soda
robert and tyler and travis got wurst of sorts and fries and drinks- doesnt matter for this story.

we are sitting.. talking.. eating..
i hear tanner say TRENT! i look up as trent throws up ALL OVER THE TABLE.
yep.
everyone is staring.
trent is crying
robert is hissing that he could have gone to a trashcan
im telling him to calm down and hush.
giving him napkins.
robert whisks him off to the bathroom.
i start cleaning off the table.the best i can with napkins.
really, it was just water and fries.
get it cleaned the best i can.
robert comes back with trent.

ummm

tanners food has throw up in it.
abbys fries have throw up on them
2 sodas have throw up on them

ugh

waste of more money

throw food away
tanner doesnt want anymore

others finish. we go to the souvenier shop.
walk back up the HUGE hill to the car.

leave. trent throws up in a bag in the car.
stop at spangdahlem- get kids dinner- leave there.

trent throws up in a bag on the way home.

get home. done with my day.

he got sick all the next day too.. and never did eat anything.
finally better sunday night and monday was fine for school.

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Ive been selling stuff on a yard sale site.. getting rid of some weight in this house. this is the part of moving i dont like. getting ready. i dont know how we collect so much junk everyplace we go. hmm see my last post.. im a collector.
robert is in his normal pinging before a move mode already.
we cant do a whole lot without the official orders in hand. so we cant schedule shipments and things and without those dates its hard to plan anything else.
its all a huge pain.

i dont want to go yet. i need another year here. i just got a good friend here and now i have to leave? whats the logic there? whats the bigger plan here??? someone fill me in please.

i was supposed to have surgery in May.. i had it all figured out.. but now it might not be approved because we wont be here 6 more months. ill know more this week sometime. if it is approved though, ill be happy but also wondering how im going to manage major surgery and a move and traveling all at once?? if it isnt approved then i have to hope they will do it in the states. not as easy a process as it is here.

we cant find anything to rent in TX online and base housing isnt big enough for us.looks like we might be buying our first house. that freaks me out. i love the idea of being able to do whatever i want to MY house.. but i dont know about having to take care of a house and pay for a house and deal with house stuff. and then theres the loans and approvals and stuff. im scared of getting denied. and getting ripped off. and getting a bad house. eeek

travis leaves in 3 weeks. i am wondering how it will effect me when he goes. i think im in denial about him going and about us moving and who knows what all else.


ok this is a major long post. should make up a little for my lack of posts right?
and i dont have a chance of sliding to the bottom of Susans blog list and being called out on her blog LOL

oh yeah.. the pic of the castle.. looks foggy.. yeah, all our pics from the castle do. come to find out the lens was dirty. didnt figure this out until we got home. dont plan on going back to that castle. stuck with fuzzy pics i guess.

whatever.

Tuesday, March 24, 2009

Im a horrible blogger

and right now I dont want to take the time to continue with Paris details.. seems like it was too long ago LOL

But I cant think of much else to write about either..

I have been reading a ton of blogs about organization lately..
I SOOOOO need my craft room to be organized.. and cleaned.. ugh its so bad that I dont even know where to begin with it- so I just choose to not even begin to clean it.

Ive also been reading a lot of blogs with recipes.. I blame Susan.. I think I followed a link she put on facebook and from there I followed another link and another and it snowballed.

and now I have at least 10 more things saved in my favorites. the husband would not be thrilled if we were still sharing a computer. haha he hates that i have so many things saved.. although he hates the fact that i have 7618 emails in my inbox and 3903 emails in my deleted box and 2162 emails in my sent box. He seems to think i should get rid of some of them. but if i did that then i might lose some info i might need at some point in time. its happened before.

yeah... this all relates i think.. im a saver. a collector.. craft junk, emails, blogs..

i need help.

Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Paris part Deux

Notre Dame is where I left off..

On the walk there, right across the street from Notre Dame was a building that I cant think of the name of.. ugh! I know it.. its in my head.. but it wont come out. Well anyways, there was a sort of walking area there.. obviously no cars allowed.. and they had this sign.. well I told the kids it meant no holding hands in that area. :)




we got to Notre Dame and took lots of pics outside and around the building. The kids wanted to see the gargoyles on top.. and were happy to see those. (We watched Hunchback of Notre Dame on the way to Paris- along with National Treasure 2)
There was a person dressed up in an Egyptian type outfit thing with a mask and all so you couldnt see the person, and he/she just stood there looking like a gold statue. Then someone would put money in his/her cup and he/she would bow to them and stand back up again. This got my kids attention and DH gave the 2 little ones some change to put in the cup. So we took a pic, they put the money in and then got bowed to.


We didnt go inside. The line was long and I just didnt think the kids would be interested.

So next was finding our hotel and checking in. We couldnt check in until 2 pm. We went around in circles and asked a lady and went in another huge circle and finally found it. It was on an itty bitty side road in a sort of apartment type area. Nice hotel though. So we went in and dropped off some of our bags and junk.. and checked our map again and headed back out.

We walked across a bridge over THE river.. and we had to stop at a chocolate place for some French chocolates of course. I saw the place and just went in and shopped.. of course I had to have found the rudest chocolate shop in town. grrr but I wanted to make sure I got some chocolates before the places closed! I had no idea what the different flavors were and the unhelpful lady didnt tell me, so I just picked a bunch and went with it. We also got croissants and an eclair :) Yummy! the eclair had chocolate filling! what a surprise.
One of the chocolates I got had an eiffel tower on it. oh and I did end up with a couple coffee tasting chocolates.. but no liquour ones! whew!





so Im stopping there for now..

I did forget to mention something about the train when we first got there. We got on the train at Disney and just after starting to move, a guy gets into our section and sets up his accordian and starts playing. He was playing music and had his cup there for money.. and I kid you not I couldnt help but laugh. It was like.. Welcome to Paris music! All I could think was.. you know Youre in Paris when you hear the accordian music on the train into the city. we got a pic of him too.. but I wont post it now..

my next post should be the end of Paris stuff... figure Im probably boring everyone at this point LOL

Monday, February 23, 2009

Paris and other stuff

so its been awhile. I almost gave up tonight too.. blogger didnt want to let me in again. But, on my last try, it worked.

lets see.. whats new here..

so I had my morning 6 pack group last week and we made 3 things.. 2 cards and a bookmark. You can see them on Susans blog. I didnt take pics of them yet, but she did. Ill have to add a link to her blog on here somewhere. One more thing for me to try and figure out.

I got a haircut and took Tanner in with me. I dont know if I have a pic of him with his hair the way it was before.. but it was long.. super long and shaggy. You couldnt see his eyes.. so he was overdue for a cut. He likes his hair longish and straight down.. so getting his cut is always an issue. He definitely does not want any kind of military type cut.
so he surprised me when he brought this pic to me to take to the hair person..



yes.. that would be Rob Lowe.. in a pic from the Outsiders!!

so I took him in, we took the pic and this is how he looks now.



Looks good doesnt he?! You can see his eyes now!!

so I got mine cut too, but I havent been able to style it the way she did.. as usual.. so no pics.

On Thursday, I heard about a family in the ward that had 2 hotel rooms reserved and paid for in Paris. Well, long story short, they couldnt use them and were offering them to anyone that could use them. so, I decided to try something totally nuts and took them up on the offer! With 8 people, its hard to just go places without major planning and money saving ahead of time.. these hotel rooms took a load off of the budget. We are so thankful to the Beans for offering them! So, I started trying to find out any info I could on what we should do for one day in Paris. So many things to see there! Robert got home Friday afternoon, we went to dinner group Friday night, then got up at 5am on Saturday to head to Paris!
We left later than we planned.. but thats normal for us.. and we got to Disneyland at around 10am. It took right about 4 hours. We parked in the Disney parking lot and took the train into Paris and then the metro to the Louvre station.
Came up out of the metro and our first real sight of Paris was a square with HUGE buildings around us/it. So beautiful! The Louvre takes up a lot of space. The original plan wasnt to go in, but to just see the outside and take some pics and then go on to something else... but once there, we decided to go in and check out Mona Lisa and Venus de Milo. I mean, come on.. how many chances will we have to do this?
so in we went and saw them both.. plus some other things along the way!




Trace apparently thought he could be art too. :)
and Abby got bored.




So we left there and went across the street and got some souveniers and then into a McDonalds for lunch.. Tyler got a pic of the menu sign before they all told him he couldnt take pics there. They dont have apple pies at the McDonalds in Paris. What is up with that? Guess I should mention that here in Europe, they still sell FRIED apple pies at McDonalds.. and theyre YUMMY! and I really dont like the baked ones in the states.. but Paris didnt have them at all.

so we took our food and ate in the park next to the Louvre and watched the birds.. ok we fed them a french fry here and there too. :)
Then we walked to Notre Dame.
This is long so maybe I should end there and start another one later.. if I can get in again..

oh but before I go.. check out this site she is having a giveaway!Not much time left to get in on it though.. but looks like a good one! http://themaisyreport.blogspot.com/ I tried to link it, but it wasnt showing up for me... so youll have to copy and paste .

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

RECIPES FOUND!!!

oh my gosh.

so first Susan emailed me a link to a quiche recipe..

andI googled and googled every stupid pancake taco combo I could find.. but no luck.

so I had the oldest go to the basement in search of a huge box of papers.. he came back with just a small stack of papers.. grrr but in that stack was my 23 yr old paper from my sophomore year when I was in home ec. for crustless quiche lorraine!

no taco recipe though :(

so I sent the 3rd son to the basement... he comes back and asks me how big of a box is he supposed to be finding.. I have no idea.
so he says he found a HUGE box and cant possibly bring it up here.. and he hands me a binder that I had a few recipes mounted into a loong time ago.. hey! its like a little bit of scrapbooking ROFLOL

so anyways...
I KNEW it wasnt in the binder.. I would KNOW if it was.. I mean, I made the stupid thing a gazillion years ago.

yeah.. so I open it anyways and start looking at the papers in it while telling the boy that he needs to try to bring up the box.. haha he wasnt into doing that at all.

well.. first page of my binder.. a recipe for...

ORIGINAL BEEF FOLDOVERS

yep! THE recipe is right in front of me...

and get this..

THERES NO BISQUICK IN THE RECIPE!! no pancake mix at all! (except that you make pancakes to put the mixture into) and I know it was on a bisquick box.

good grief.

so Im using the leftover taco meat from the other night and we are having this for dinner tonight.

oh, do you want the recipes???

well, just in case.. here they are.

Crustless Quiche Lorraine

8 slices bacon
4 eggs
1 can (13 ounces) evaporated milk
1/4 tsp salt
1/8 tsp pepper
1/2 can (3.5 ounces) fench fried onion rings
1 cup grated swiss cheese

cook bacon until crisp, then crumble. Combine eggs, milk, salt and pepper and beat together. Sprinkle bacon in a 8 inch round dish or pie pan. op with 1/2 can french fried onion rings and grated swiss cheese. Pour egg mixture on top. Cook in microwave on medium (50% power) 15 to 16 minutes. Stir two times at 5 minutes. Let stand stand for 10 minutes covered, then serve.


now, I remember thinking grossss because i dont like swiss cheese. but the teacher made us make it anyways and i liked it! gasp! and i liked that it didnt have a pie crust type thing. :) we served it with biscuits and grape juice.


ORIGINAL BEEF FOLDOVERS

brown 1/2 pound ground beef and 1/4 cup chopped onions in skillet.
Add one 16 ounce can tomatoes (i use diced), one 7 ounce can well drained whole kernel corn, 1/8 tsp pepper and 1/2 tsp salt.
Bring to a boil.
Blend 2 tsps cornstarch into 1/4 cup water. Gradually stir into boiling mix. Reduce heat and simmer until thickened.

Prepare pancakes for 1 cup mix. (im sure i make more than this)

Fold pancake in half and fill with meat mixture.

supposed to feed 6


if you dont like it, i dont care! BWHAHAHA im kidding.. i care, but its not my fault.. these recipes are OLD and our tastebuds might just be too sophisticated for this stuff now. hahahhaha yeah right.

let me know if you try either of them...


and by the way.. i DO know that a BISQUICK recipe called impossible coconut pie is really yummy too! and again, no pie crust sort of crust.. it makes its own crust thats soft and yummy. (now remember I havent had it in 25 years but that shouldnt matter) you CAN google that one and find it!

;-)


SMALL UPDATE:

I just got done making the filling and Im not adding the cornstarch mixture because its thick without it. I have the oldest making the pancakes and then we will eat :) MmMmMm

In Search of a Recipe

ok, I have no idea how many readers I have now.. though Im sure its not millions LOL.. but if one of you sees this and has heard of this recipe, or even mentions it to someone else and they know the recipe, PLEASE send it my way!

so, 20 years or more ago, my mom got a recipe off of the Bisquick box. It sounds kind of icky but its really pretty good.. and I want to make it this week!

its basically a pancake that you use like a taco shell kind of thing..

the filling is hamburger meat and corn and canned tomatoes.. and I dont know what else!

Im sure I can make something up.. or I could go digging through the huge box in the basement of papers and recipes to try to find the clipped from the box recipe.. but that will take soooo long LOL

Ive googled bisquick, Ive read lots of recipes.. none of them have been it.

Im not looking for a taco bake recipe.. or a biscuit recipe..

this was a filling and you put it on a pancake and folded it like a taco. (but used a fork to eat it)


Anyone????

oh and when I was in H.S., we made another Bisquick recipe called 'Crustless Quiche Lorraine' has anyone seen that one? (I havent searched for it yet)